Paul Gunn Jr. is the Founder of KUOG Company, a logistics company focusing on solutions designed to serve our warfighters. Placing high importance on empathy, the company has been working with the government and private sectors and has been recognized on the Inc. 500 list.
Growing up, Paul’s father has been an inspiration making sure that they impart method and discipline. He practices rising early and having routines from him.
In his 20s, he met someone who followed a similar routine to his father. After realizing its significance and the benefits it delivers, he embraced it as his own.
When his brother left the military, his father had an idea to start a business together. They started with just a loaned outdated laptop and a vanity set, but that business grew and even made it on the Inc. 500 list. He then discovered his passion to serve and kept providing these logistics services since then.
Routine | Early Morning Riser
Paul Gunn Jr. had been performing routines since he was a child, but as he got older, he realized how valuable it was to be an early morning riser to keep him at the top of his game. Here are few of his daily routines:
- Getting things done in the morning
- Working out
- Having the 3-hour block
- Having natural curiosity
Success
Paul describes success as more in the spiritual sense of what you do to impact on an internal magnitude. It is when he experiences becoming a vessel for kindness. Having to serve with empathy and that passion, KUOG Corporation grew by an impressive 378% over three years, placing 273 on the 2021 Inc. 500 list and 1,653 on the 2022 Inc. 5000 list.
Book Recommendations:
How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie
Extreme Ownership by Jocko Willink and Leif Babin
Connect With Paul Gunn Jr.
Website: http://kuoginc.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com//in/paul-l-gunn-jr/
Twitter:https://www.twitter.com/paullgunnjr
Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/LionofEmpathy/
Website: Paul Gunn JR
Book: https://paulgunnjr.com/empathy-guide
Transcript
Hannah Mitrea 0:05
Hello, everyone. This is Hannah, your host and you are listening to the success is routine podcast. Our show is on a mission to talk to leaders in life and business that have achieved success and to learn what their routine is, if you’re ready to create your routine to success, you’re in the right place. Now let’s get started. Alright everybody, welcome back to the success is routine podcast. I am so excited to have Paul Gunn, Jr. on with us today to share a little bit about his routine. So Paul is the founder of those a QR. That’s it right? Yeah. Yeah. All right. The fall is the founder of QR corporations, working with military contracts. And he will share a little bit more about his story. But welcome to the show, Paul.
Paul Gunn Jr. 0:49
Thank you.
Hannah Mitrea 0:52
All right, I know you’ve been on the Inc list as well. And that’s how we kind of connected through there. So share a little bit with me about your background, your story, did you always have a routine in your life that kind of helped with what you did? Or like growing up? What was it like for you? And what was your story? And how did you get into, you know, Q OG corporations?
Paul Gunn Jr. 1:13
That’s a great question. And we had real love and family our parents really wanted to instill in us process and discipline. So a lot of that has stemmed from our father wanting to wake up early in the morning, pay attention to those things that are going on. And instead of getting between making the bed, make sure to eat and being prepared to come down and ready for him to drive us to school on a lot of those times in the morning. Don’t drive to school, or we’re kind of like where he says he dropped a lot of information and bonding time. And so part of that routine was to make sure we were set up to be in that car with him. I guess, looking back on it, it was his father, son guys with my brother in law. And that kind of stemmed over making sure and through college and through school, I cared getting up in the morning and setting retaining. But yeah, as a kid, when you grow up, you see your parents, they say this one thing, but it wasn’t until I started to get through it and see how other people in the work environment did it. And I had the chance to have kind of an Off The Record mentor in my 20s, who was self made. No named with nine figure wealth. And when I saw how this person utilized that routine, almost identical to how our father set it up with us. It just I had an epiphany. He said, hey, look, this is the same 24 hours. We all have. There’s no difference. He came from nuts. And then he ascended to the top where he was utilizing those same patterns and routines and I adopted it and mine in that process. I found my flow was from four to seven. If I could wake up in the morning back for sleep, have my prayers, meditation, eat, go to the gym. And I was at work doing what I needed to do by the hour, hour and a half before everybody else woke up. I basically knocked out a ton of work by eight o’clock. And it was basically posting from there from those early morning hours taking the time for my mind, body and soul. It may sound cliche, but that really had an impact on me because I saw someone who ascended to so much success using the same things we were taught growing up.
Hannah Mitrea 3:33
Yeah, that’s incredible. And just like one thing that goes through my mind is as a kid, how much did you resist that routine? Like getting up early and things like that? Because I know as a kid like me waking up early was not happening.
Paul Gunn Jr. 3:48
Well, this is my I’ve always been an early morning person. It was an in going to sleep it was more that was said we had to tie in for the homework in the evening because we had a hard, early bedtime. So when the nights were longer when we had to stay up to do homework and made the morning more difficult and has he was trying to press go to bed early, get your work and get up early and get the task done in the morning. So a lot of that was I didn’t really resist it so much. My brother may have a different feed say so about that. But me I’ve naturally been an early morning riser. So I’ve recognized that that’s been helpful and to utilize that good energy because that would show itself during the collegiate years were my morning classes I had to put in the more difficult ones in the morning when I first would go to college. I put those difficult ones in you have to know just because of the scheduling Oh where they were. And I noticed the tail off that this just was not my best time after lunch was not good for me. So I had to realize through trial and error even in college, that the ball Oh, my energy is able to be spent before No. And it preferably had to be done in the morning. So in college, I’d wake up, get the homework No, and get that work done before I even went to class.
Hannah Mitrea 5:11
Yeah, I love that you figured out what time was like your zone of genius. And it’s really interesting to hear that you said your brother did not like to wake up early? Because I know we talked previously, that he joined the military, you did not necessarily Yes. And in the military that waking up early. So it’s very interesting how those two paths kind of went there for you. And that also kind of brings me into so your company is working with military contracts. So how did that kind of, you know, how did your routine lead into being able to create this highly successful company?
Paul Gunn Jr. 5:44
That’s a great question. You know, a brother went into the military after the cars went die. So he tried to go in as well. I didn’t even know you were able to be denied for basically plantar fasciitis. But somehow, that’s where I was. When he went, I brought it really close. So he spent his time there, I went other places. And when he got out, my dad was a former auditor with the government. And he just made a suggestion I had seen my brother and the tower, he was over there for four years. Today at Union run ever consider starting a business together. And I jumped at it since we were so close. So we started that from nothing basically had an a vanity set that my dad’s loaned and an old laptop my brother had, and we formed a company and got that first company on AngelList, and then sold it and went separate ways. I continued doing that, while he went off, and is in still in logistics, hauling freight. And I just want to continue doing this.
Hannah Mitrea 6:51
Yeah. And it’s something that would probably have to have a later conversation, because I have so many questions of the business relationship and things like that, too. So I think that’s really cool that you’ve worked together. And just like, you know, the routine of working together with somebody that you know, as family isn’t always hard, easy. So it’s really interesting to hear how Ian’s connected, started the business together and work together so well to get on to the Inc 500 list. But
Paul Gunn Jr. 7:15
that was interesting. My brother, my dad’s and we were he left and my brothers left handed. So we were very close. Growing up, we went through a lot of rough days agrarian said versity break brings people who are going to either learn, or you fall apart in our adversity together. He’s my younger brother, and always looked out for him and having that kind of missed. When he was overseas daily, wondering, is he going to come back home for four years? I understand. That’s what warriors do. They go over there, they were still nice. But as his brother, I missed it. And I was like, when is he gonna get home? So when we finally had that time to make up from this time, when I’m over there, where we soaked it up, and what I miss, he complimented, well, he would see it from the left side brain. And he would always basically have my back, I was more of a visionary. He was more of the operations. So he basically raised or that I could go out and long range thing, what those things were. So if something was missed in a contract, he’s already had you looked at this page, it’s not really pointing out and then he would give me basically how military people were thinking, what it meant, how important it was for something, and it just furthered my passion, because part of my passion was I missed my brother when he was gone and and wanting to always in short, does he have what it needs? Does? Are they getting the items that are important to them? So yes, it may not save his life, but at least he has a better chance of doing it. So when I would get kind of information from his side, it furthered that passion, say now understand what this means when he’s has to be here shared time or certainty. It always was important, but it just gave new meaning to it. There was a huge complementary, so I would go in in the morning, I would do those things. And when it came time to flow and said to him, hey, look, this is what’s been done while you were sleeping. And he would come in and say, oh, yeah, these, tweak a few things here and then go out. So he would come in maybe 1010 30. But I had a lot of the work done, so it just mess real well. And when he would, when I would need to take a break, he would hand it over and then I’d go into the evening, kind of back into the flow preparing for the next morning. So whatever gap I had, he told me
Hannah Mitrea 9:30
I love that I love it. It’s like a gang gang or puzzle pieces that fit perfectly together. Let’s talk a little bit about your team though. You woke up you get up morning. 4am Yeah, so you like you told me you’re mostly done with your work by 7am when you’re doing that morning routine so what did that four to 7am look like? What was the thing that started your day? That really helped you establish like how your day was gonna go?
Paul Gunn Jr. 9:54
I was it was real critical. I tried to choose when I first tried to start getting no Before, you know, it was difficult, because I was going to bed at night, and I would grow at that time I was doing two a day workouts with CrossFit. I was the girl, okay, I’ll just take my time and ease into the evening. But I realized quickly, I had to be in bed at eight o’clock. And that was important. So eight o’clock, I’d not I would sit down to norm before 8pm. And after about their first week going to sleep at 8pm, I naturally was waking up five, or 10 minutes before the puck were at four. So I got to the point where I didn’t even want to hear the alarm go off before. So I’d sit there for 10 minutes. And just calmly think, just loose like not about anything, just but I’d let my mind run. And then for him, I’d wake up, I’d have my prayer, I’d be thankful for the things that happened in the night or the day before and just start to think what I needed to do. And then I’d read a few passages of the Bible in any other motivational piece that need to be for 15 minutes, I’d get up. And I would go to the gym on an empty stomach, about workout for an hour, come back, eat breakfast, and then outline what were the three major things that I needed to do in that data are absolutely critical that if I got them done before serving, they would smooth out today. Now that man man looking at clue or what big contract was coming out what was going on in the world that may affect those types of orders or affect the warfighters or just be something that could cause a national crisis, I needed to be mindful of that was absolutely crucial, because because I didn’t know how that urgency was going to affect that day. So I wanted to get myself prepared for that to what two new venues could I call on time that I could help word of that news that was important that I was hearing that would benefit them, and then the in the same context, what news or to lenders? Could that hurt that I could give them information that may not be aware, and then I’d go from there.
Hannah Mitrea 12:03
I think that’s incredible that you were looking at the news and planning how to help those strategic connections you have. And to strengthen that relationship. So your mornings were even spent, you know, strengthening relationships you had or building new ones that can be formed out of what’s going on since you know, the military is so impacted by what’s going around the world, not just you know, maybe at home, like some things are. So I think that’s really awesome that you were doing all those different things. And strategically thinking of all those things, that is extremely impressive. And I’m glad that you’re helping our military. Alright, so four and the seven. So after seven, would you kind of go into like, walk away from work and go into home life? Or would you still be working?
Paul Gunn Jr. 12:48
No. So I made sure I predict crushed me like absolutely critical z the orders that had to get out in between. So in contacting those people, there were orders, there were pipeline stuff, I knew I needed to go. So I would say okay, these orders have to go out these things have to be invoices, these people have to be taught that I need to prepare either type of proposals or written documents for whatever my brother came in. And then once I knew those crutches or the heaviness was gone, I would spend that seven to 10am. Reading a lot of different articles. It wasn’t just news articles, it was cross industry domains, I would read stuff, how does things affect a flower shop? What is the water? Like? What is the water flow and those different things having to do with energy? And what’s going on in that industry that I would then reach out and say, Hey, what, what is this mean? I was seeking to make connections. And we’re looking to find missing gaps if there’s any overlap into the critical news. So I was curious about other industries, and what may be going on with that. So I was also watching the news and reading articles about how what indirectly not being told from public news, that’s just not taken at face value. I was looking for the missing gaps to reach off from tests from seven to 10. It was reading on so many different things to become well versed. In what moment this news is going to come in and shift. Is it going to shift into an industry? I don’t know anything about that I better be prepared for or is it going to change and create new something from the people I am making kind of so yes, I was thinking military. But I was also thinking commercially, how it all is in a drawer together.
Hannah Mitrea 14:34
Yeah, how I love to be like a file on your wall just to see this process going on. Because it’s just so incredible how like your mind is working so many ways to look at these pieces. And I love that to be able to like and I’m like sitting here thinking how do I implement this into my business which is marketing to be able to looking at advances because we are nowhere near as like life changing as military operations are. However, marketing is changing so frequently and there There’s, there’s so many social media platforms out there. So I think it’s really interesting hearing how you’re able to take in all this media, and then turn it out into, how’s this going to help? My partners? How’s this going to help the business grow and things like that? So was it? What did you like kind of learn that from? Was it something that just kind of came naturally to you? Or were you taught that? I know, you said you had the mentor? Was it something they had shown you?
Paul Gunn Jr. 15:26
So my dad, he’s naturally a teacher, I was, I would say, are gifted or have an A loving dad. That was his gift. He was a teacher. So how we learned about this industry, he didn’t tell us, he basically said, if you want to go do this, here it is now go do it. So he was testing essentially how much we wanted to know. And what he did was, once you learned and had question, then he would come because now you put in your sweat equity to sit now he could come help and give you that advice. But he wasn’t just gonna tell you he’s like, I can’t tell you how to do this, you have to learn. And so that’s how he raised us as teachers figure it out on your own. And if you got a question, bring it. So there was a natural curiosity to so many things. For example, I heard you mentioned about Mark and what I learned in the process, there were credible ways that marketing platforms were done, or sources that would I would glean or two that had more kind of valid points and information, or branding, or marketing that would stand out. And at that time, I made a relationship with a guy who was so in marketing and doing that. And that’s when the downturn of Oh 908 happened. So the lady reached, I said, Well, it’s a downturn was, I don’t think it’s wise for me to go in and do this. And he gave me some insights I went in, and I placed the as in the strategic clothes. And doing that what I learned later, was that other people pull back in those times when the strategic thing to do is to overflow in there. Now, that was a strategic move for us to do so it is valuable. If you can get the right marketing teams, you can say the right thing and do it in a way that is not overly tight. It is absolutely critical. And I learned that from watching the different media outlets and what people were doing and how they were saying to attract people in that process. So that natural curiosity was bought from saying that I like looking at a lot.
Hannah Mitrea 17:30
As I was saying, when I was a kid, I used to love watching like Black Friday ads more than the actual TV because they were just so interesting to see the different things that are happening. But you know, that was a crucial point. He said right there a lot of people pull out and marketing during a recession. And it’s one of the worst things you can do, which sounds like counterintuitive, because everybody else is pulling out too. So if you stay in, you’re gonna be able to, to outperform them, because nobody else your competition goes down. And then also, when that recession comes out, you now have a stronger foothold than all your competition had in some like, yes, spot on. What I wanted to talk to you about next was how that change, because people are listening here are probably like, Hey, I have kids, I cannot wake up before AM 4am to seven. And you shared with me, you have kids, and everything kind of changed when that happened. So talk to us a little bit about how that changed when you had kids and how four and the seven no longer was just your time anymore.
Paul Gunn Jr. 18:28
Like so I would say um, Die Hard. My flow was from four to seven, it still is from four to seven. So when we first had kids, I would laugh to say, hey, my flow hours are spent on dad in the changing diapers, burping being born. So my best hours. I’m doing dad stuff a it’s an interminable wealthy, you never going to be able to get that time back. But I noticed it took me a very long time. admittingly. So the first five years of his business, it was extremely difficult because my floater was just it was natural it was and I didn’t even have to think of it at that point. I had been doing it since 2008. It was just natural to me. I had very difficult, where I would put them down and I would struggle after the set. I was so exhausted from no sleep. So I first I would try to do the big things and I was tired. I couldn’t get them done then I would try to do the small things. I couldn’t get them done because the bigger stuff started to snowball so that that my first inclination, I started to realize, hey, once I got him down at night, I had to invert the entire process. I had to put the big things down at night. So when he was newborn, and we were doing it I was doing a big chunk at night so I had that point. So I had to just look at the most critical stuff that I could do and muster the energy and get that done so I would get those done. And then at the very midnight hours I would read what I you used to read in the morning. And if I had to wake up early, then I would do kind of the admin stuff before the four. Because I knew before the seven, I was dealing with him and then after 7am I would go to the gym and do two different walks. So from 10 to noon, his back what I was doing gotta do more light work, reading on advertising, reading on those different things they intertwine between military news in between different domains. But it was difficult I recently just now more take Cogan more stone and solid in terms of taking that time when I get him up and get him to school to go work on my body and mind. And then into the heavy stuff. So now I go into heavy stuff is in between where I before lunch, then after, even though that’s still not my best?
Hannah Mitrea 20:54
Yeah, I know you talked about kind of like more time blocking was a big change that you had to
Paul Gunn Jr. 21:00
wear. And I did because at first I was like, Oh, I had this easy. It was simple. I’m just, I’m just doing dad stuff. And when I blocked my time, I had a mother eye opening moment, realizing I am essentially doing more things with him because we didn’t have them in daycare at that time. So most of my day was spent dealing with her both my wife and I do run different companies. So we were we kind of shared at different times. And it just got to the point where I had to look it down and I put it on paper, I would do more more with 10 than I was worth. And when I blocked out Ty and was able to say hey, this is family time. This is Dad, this is making sure the kids, then I was able to hold that and really focus, hey, I’ve got three hours on erupted to get all this. So I had to force myself at that point to great nature of having a four to 7am flow and cram in. So my mind saw that three hour block. And I was able to muster the energy to count that as this is just going to be my flow. So when I put it in three hour blocks, I was able to kind of do a little bit, it’s still not the best of my flow that four to seven still is but the three hour block. I feel like it might trick me even getting the thing that I need to get done.
Hannah Mitrea 22:22
I love I hope when he’s older, he listens to this and goes, I got dad’s best time. That really became his best time. And that was me. Because I love that. So talk to me real quick. So having to move your time. Were you doing stuff later? Was it hard to stick to that?
Paul Gunn Jr. 22:40
Yeah, it was do with the restart I was my mid to Bower is best it had always been it was like that from a kid it was like in the house, it was like done in college, drink that four to seven, I could do stuff in my sleep, I would have four or five springs, I felt like I could do I know sizes as you’re not able to do it all at once. But it felt like I was able to just get so much done. And then when I later realized, Hey, I’m getting all of that done in a three hour block some way, I’ve got to fix my body to get this work done in three hours. Because if that’s three hours of flow, if I get those two, three hour blocks, at least I get in those three hours over a six hour block broken out in three hours. And then that’s what helped me instead of just trying to say I’m gonna take a 10 minute break, do it here that didn’t work in May, I had always threw me off, I didn’t go where I needed to go. And I would just run loose because I would do 10 minutes of difficult work, then I’d get on reading articles and it’s been an hour, two hours, read it and then go back to the important work. But the time blocking did it for me to make it a little easier.
Hannah Mitrea 23:53
Well, it does stick, like what helped you like stay to that routine of the three hour blocks when it first started,
Paul Gunn Jr. 24:00
when we started to actually when I was able to manage the quick growth because the after the first company, we sold it, and then I was seeing how quick the second company could get up and running. I realized that three hour blocks was working to acquire the work and to be able to sustain or at least maintain it during those times. So it was proved that was in the work done and acquired and what I learned that time when he was four to seven, I focused mainly on East Coast customers. I didn’t really worry about the West Coast. He wasn’t like, Hey, I’m going to bed at eight o’clock. I don’t want to be bothered with having a customer deal with me when I’m trying to go to bed. But having flipped it was also a blessing in disguise because then I started to focus on West Coast customers. So I knew I was going to be up in the middle of the night and doing that allowed us to grow twice as fast and that was the blessing and I was able to do It was kind of them because it was towards the end of their day, as well, or were late afternoon. So they were more in a relaxed setting, and being able to communicate and deal with them, then that let me know, hey, I could do this, I could focus the first three hour block for the East Coast. And I can focus the second hour block in the evening for the West Coast.
Hannah Mitrea 25:21
Awesome, that’s incredible that you found the opportunity, and a shift that had thus forced into your life in a way. But let’s talk about success a little bit. So how do you define success? And kind of, you know, how can you relate the success you’ve had? And what success have you had, if you want to share back to your routine,
Paul Gunn Jr. 25:39
the way I described success is more in the spiritual sense of what you do to impact in an internal magnitude. And for me, I consider that I’m a vessel. And whatever it is vessel is to outpour the intangible wealth into audit. So if this by what I’m doing for the passion of what I love to do, helps bring in resources to continue the fuel charities and other different things that we’re working on to help people that I consider that success that whatever I’m doing that I worked on myself internally, so that others can see a blessing either to me or having come in contact. Yes, I’m in was patient, I’ve missed my fair share. And the intent is that I solidified myself and the people we work with in the company itself, to be a hard shell, to overflow into others so that those excess is more for the intangible wealth put in others than it is tangibly. And our father essentially raised us that way, he gave all the money in the world. If you’re not making an impact or light on other people, then it’s pointless. And that’s kind of the module window to interfere that success in that routine is a burn in making sure you spend time to work on yourself, so that when your day starts, you’re in the right mindset to be that way. And you’re looking out for those moments that may not have to do anything at all at business. But using business as a tool to impact the Lord. intangibly for an eternal group.
Hannah Mitrea 27:22
No, I love that it’s, you know, creating that balance and you to be able to do better for the world, really not just your self growth. But you know, everyone around you too. So I love that thank you for sharing that, like success that, you know, and how you look at success differently like that. I have two questions, I want to make sure that I respect your time. So two questions for you before we get going. One is, if somebody is listening to this right now, and they do not have that routine established in their life, you know, they didn’t have your father telling them wake up in the morning giving them these things, no mentor, what is that thing they can kind of start doing tomorrow? To get them into that routine?
Paul Gunn Jr. 28:02
As a great question. Having seen how my brothers haven’t seen how my wife is, I haven’t seen my dad log on each person, there’s a natural tendency to where the person feels comfortable. I don’t know, this person may know it, that where they just feel at ease in everything just flows. I, for example, our lives are as always don’t say it’s from like 10 to one, there’s a natural flow. She just gets things done. My brothers is probably from noon to about four. And if you take that kind of self reflecting, look, what is that time as good for you. Look at that and start there. Now if it’s not having gone through kid I would say of your time is not and it overlaps with kids, then how can you break those three hours into six hours and split them into talent, whether you’re at school, before school or in the evening, but fire start with the centerpiece on what’s naturally comfortable for you then look to split those equivalent hours out over to three hour sets and start and if you can’t get through our sets turn over an asset. But that is one of the biggest things I learned from going prior to kids to after kids I had, basically to the second power. The first three sets of hours on fire was naturally there and you’re bored.
Hannah Mitrea 29:31
Yeah. Thank you so much, Paul, for not telling us how to wake up beforehand.
Paul Gunn Jr. 29:38
This is well.
Hannah Mitrea 29:42
That’s good. I’m glad that you’re telling people to really look at what is their best time and capitalizing essentially on their time to do the things that are the most important for them. And then if they can’t to time block it into creating those different things. So my second question is you What book? Would you recommend somebody read through their personal development, business development, maybe an autobiography? What was the most impactful thing that you’ve read? And it might not even be a book, it could be like, maybe this is the article they should go to. So what’s that thing that somebody should read?
Paul Gunn Jr. 30:17
There’s two things. There’s two impactful books. I’m going to those two books out and powerful. So how to win friends and influence people in it. And then Extreme Ownership. And the reason I like these two Extreme Ownership I read right when the pan debit happened, because I wanted to understand Nast when I was having real difficulty with my schedule, where they just had been in York, and seeing how the Navy SEALs don’t train and they’re just, they’re up in their daughter with Jocko and a for explaining in their tape that Extreme Ownership of yourself and I would see how they retrained, they would walk into the different companies and speak with Deb de unkindness to get these people to move on stuff that they did not want to do. So I saw that strip I took away from that they were using empathy and kindness, which resonated well with me, but to how well they retrained to overlap that into their working environment, and to take ownership all the way of hey, I wasn’t doing what I needed to do, I can’t blame them. So most of where he grew up in, he was my time at what I felt was my best time. So I took that influence. And that read and said, oh when all my time and let me go and really make a better use of this and then how to win friends and influence people take this and however I can live my life from the schedule, and live a life that’s impactful to influence others or greater groups of dogs to where we really impactful but extreme Extreme Ownership really put me in a mental framework to say I need to hold my dog and just not let it go by willy nilly.
Hannah Mitrea 32:01
Awesome, I will definitely check out. For the first one. I’ll check out the second one too Extreme Ownership and put them on my list. Well, thank you so much, Paul, for joining. Thank you for sharing your routine and the changes you’ve gone through in the success for us. I’ve loved having you on the show. Thank you for listening to success is routine podcast. If you found value in this episode, share it with a friend episodes go live weekly on Sunday at 8am. Start your week with the right routine, like follow interview the podcast on Apple podcasts, Spotify, Amazon music, or wherever you’re listening, join the success of the team movement and get exclusive downloads and content from the guests go to www that success is a teen.com and follow the conversation there or on social media until next time, remember
Paul Gunn Jr. 32:50
so when I put it a three hour blocks, I was able to kind of do a no but it’s still not the best of my flow that 47 still is but the three hour block. I feel like it might trip me getting the thing done, I need to get no outline. What were the three major things that I needed to do in that data are absolutely critical that if I got them done before seven, they would smooth out the day. The way I described success is more in the spiritual sense of what you do to impact in an internal magnitude and for me I consider that I’m a vessel and whatever it is vessel is to outpour intangible wealth and to grab it.